IIT PG Admissions Part 1 – MS or MTech?

Hi all,

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Its circus time again! Admissions season. Loads of decisions to make. Loads of data available, but very little information. Having gone through the entire thing last year, I thought I’d write a set of articles in aid of the poor souls trying to get in this time :D

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I’ll be talking about IIT admissions only, as my knowledge is limited to that. I’ll assume that people have decided to study here. Here or abroad is a question that must’ve been answered by now :)

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One of the first things to decide once you’ve decided to do your PG in India is whether to go for an MS or for an MTech. I wrote a detailed reply to this question in gatementor.com, on which the following is based.

MS or MTech?

FACTS:
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- MTech and MS need ~60 credits (or a scaled value, depending on the institution)
- MTech is 2 years;
MS is 1 1/2 years to 3 years
- MTech by definition is a course program, where the emphasis is on advanced coursework spanning various areas;
MS by definition is a research program, where the emphasis is on doing ORIGINAL work in one particular area.
- MTech credits is split as ~40 coursework and ~20 project;
MS credits split as ~20 coursework and ~40 thesis
- MTech courses span different areas;
MS coursework is typically chosen to provide knowledge in your chosen area of research
- MTech project (~1 year) is not necessarily research oriented;
MS thesis is research-oriented
- MTech in India is equivalent to an “MS with project” option in the US
MS in India is equivalent to an “MS with thesis” option in the US
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MY OPINIONS:
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It must be understood that one is not better than the other – both are equivalent programs. At least on paper. But the public perception and the perception amongst students (as evinced by the trends) is that MTech is better than MS. iIdisagree; both cannot be compared. They’re like the cliched apples and oranges. Is apple better because its sweet? Does it mean being tangy is bad? No such comparison can be made.
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How to choose between MS and MTech
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Decide what you want first. If you’re interested in working in one particular area, then MS is the thing for you. If you are not able to decide and want to taste different areas in CS, then MTech is the thing for you.
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I’ll tell you my case:

I didn’t get a GATE rank good enough to get Direct Admission, but got interview calls. I got an admit at IITD (JCA) and IITK(Mtech CS) and IISc (Msc Engg. EC), but I chose IITM (MS) because this suited my interests best. I am interested in VLSI/Computer Architecture/OS. My institute is really good for VLSI, and there is a prof here with whom I really wanted to work. My research area here is precisely what I mentioned. The coursework I’ve done/doing here are Computer Architecture, Digital Design Testing, Digital Design Verification, Device Drivers Practicum and Mathematical Concepts for CS. No more courses. No dumb SE or Networks. Total focus on one area, and an extensive thesis on that. Pretty cool no? :)
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Whereas if you’re an MTech, you’ll have 3 or 4 courses that are compulsory. Apart from that, you need to choose 5 or 6 papers as electives. You also need to do a semester long (year long in some places) project.
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I chose MS, a supposedly lesser course over MTech though I got it. I chose IITM over the supposedly better places – IISc, IITK and IITD, though I got admits there. And guess what? I’m having a FANTASTIC time here!! I THOROUGHLY ENJOY the work I do, the place everything! That’s because this was the best thing for ME.
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Please DO NOT do ANYTHING simply because others are doing, or because its the politically correct thing to do. Do what YOU want to do :)
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A Caveat: In MS, unlike MTech, you’ll come directly under your guide. Choose your guide well. Many profs are good, but not all. There will be some profs who’ll give you an MS in 1 1/2 or 2 years itself, provided you’ve done good work. There will be some who’ll be particular that you work for 3 years. There’ll be some who’ll guide very well. There’ll be some who will not give much guidance. Every IIT will have profs of both kind, and naturally, we being inside, cannot publicly speak our mind about each prof individually :) Ask around before choosing a guide.
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I hope this gives at least some direction to think in so as to decide between MS and MTech. Next part (hopefully I write it!) may be on the interviews, or on choosing the institute.. Please do ask if you have any clarifications, or if you have a specific question in mind.

karthrags

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166 Responses to IIT PG Admissions Part 1 – MS or MTech?

  1. Kaushik says:

    I think you should also come up with a post comparing MS in the US VS MS/M Tech in India.

  2. Mani says:

    Yeah I’d really appreciate that! If you have the time that is.

    I’m currently going around in circles with this one.

  3. Abhijeet Nawal says:

    Hello Sir,
    Its a good post. I want to seek some info from u regarding where to apply or atleast find info on the net regaring Gate. I qualified Gate 2009 with 552 score, 97.63 %tile and 996 rank. I am not getting info about other IITs offering MS courses except IITM and IITD.I will be very grateful to u if u help me in this regard. Thanks..

  4. AamzillaA says:

    Thank you so much Karthik for this post. This was really helpful.

    -AamzillaA

  5. charly says:

    very informative since am also going to face this year………

  6. invishnk says:

    Informative article…may be it’ll help in taking decision…bt it wuld be gud if u compare between Ms in US/other countries Vs MS/MTech in India…neways..gud work…

  7. karthrags says:

    Hey, I’m writing that one comparing PG education here and abroad. Exams coming up :( so only delay..

  8. praveen says:

    hi,karthik
    i have got a call for ms(r) from IIT(M).
    what would be syllabus of written test& interview.
    how shoud i prepare 4 test+interview.?

    • karthrags says:

      Hey Praveen,

      Wait for the call letter. That’ll have the details. Else call the office/mail them and ask..

    • Sushil says:

      Hi Praveen,

      did u get the call from cse dept.? was it communicated by post?(couldn’t find any shortlist on the dept website)

  9. Swarna says:

    Thanks a lot for the info, dosth! But I wish you can elaborate more on what the screening tests and interviews will focus on or the way they are conducted at IITs. It will help us in preparing for them. Have a nice day!

  10. lucky says:

    Hi,
    Thank you so much for this post.. it was very useful.. earlier i didn’t know the difference between MS and MTech. I am doing my B.E in CS in a not-so-reputed college in chennai. I’ve just got 73% till now ( currently in my 6th sem) in the course.

    1. Will a high GRE score let me get admission in a very good US university ?
    2. Is the reputation of the under grad college important for getting admission in a good university in USA ?

    • karthrags says:

      Swarna:Thanks :) Regarding specific tests, they keep varying every year, so hard to predict..

      Lucky: Thanks a lot :)
      1. “A bad score will keep you out of a university, but a good score is not enough to get you in” says a univ website (I think its Duke or Dartmouth). That pretty much sums it up.
      2. We’ll never know how important it is to a specific university (changes across universities), but its generally considered.

      • lucky says:

        In most of the US universities , if we want to do PhD ,they want us to study MS before we go for PhD .

        If thats the case, if i had already done MTech in India, and when i aaply for PhD in some US university, should i do MS before i go for PhD in that univeristy ??????

      • karthrags says:

        I don’t think so.. Maybe you should mail the admissions coordinator of the univ you’re interested in to get authentic info.

  11. lucky says:

    Can we do MS in USA after ME/Mtech here in India..

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  13. saika says:

    There’s one disadvantage for MS though. It can really go lagging and you may take more years to complete it!

    I don’t know why they have this two different programs, in U.S they seem to have only MS and manage quite well.. Instead of two diff degrees in one field and separate admission criteria, IITs should go for one single course and that should be a research oriented one!

    Well, I am appearing for the IISc interview this time, hope to get through!

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Saika,

      I did mention about the duration. You’re right.. MS can drag.

      In the US, they have an “MS” only, but there are two options – MS by Coursework and MS by Thesis. MS by coursework is like MTech here, with emphasis on coursework. MS by Thesis is like MS here, with lesser courses and a thesis to be submitted at the end. They essentially have the same programs as we do, but named differently :)

      All the best for your IISc interviews!

  14. rashi says:

    well i realy need ur help….
    can u give me an idea as of hw much %score is needed in gate for m.tech in cs…
    n wat is d scope of m.tech/india..

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Rashi,

      Percentile is not a good metric for a cut-off, as the number of GATE takers change, but the seats remain pretty constant. The top 250 or so get MTech CS in some IIT.. What do you mean by “scope”? That’s pretty vague.. If its an euphemism for pay, you have a good chance of getting anywhere from 5 lpa to 12 lpa :)

  15. rashi says:

    wow many thnks 4 a quick reply…..
    ok can u guess on an average hw many students take GATE…m totaly flusterd rite nw srry 4 disturbing again…..dese many details arent available on net na….

    • karthrags says:

      No problem :)

      No need to guess. A bit more than 17, 500 students wrote GATE CS 2007, around 18, 500 wrote GATE CS 2008 and ~42, 000 students took GATE CS 2009!

      I’m guessing GATE 2009 will also have high participation.. Lesser jobs around, so more people trying to study. Better prepare hard!

      • rashi says:

        thnks again …..[:)]
        and does m.tech prepration realy need coaching ((actualy my family isnt ready 4 m.tech,dey insist on doing mba))…so dat i can giv d paper widout informing dem…n also i hv just entered in 3rd yr..so wats d ryt tym 2 start d prepration…

  16. Neetronic says:

    Hello Karthrags,
    I have got through the MS interview in EC dept. of IISc.I have opted for Signal Processing.
    I have got nw call from ISRO.ISRO has been a dream company for me nxt only to NASA.Also ISRO sponsors after 3years of experience for higher studies in India.I have to opt for amongst the 2.
    Opting for MS/ISRO which wuld be beneficial?
    How are the prospects for Signal Processing ahead?
    How do we choose area for research ..do we have to be very specific?
    The flow we need to follow to gear up for MS within 1and1/2 to 2yrs?
    Also in various recruitments its written MTech ,are MS students also eligible for it.

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Neetronic,

      Tough one! Congrats on getting calls from IISc and ISRO. What do you want to become? Prof or research scientist? This is one question to answer. Another is this: what are the chances of getting into ISRO after MSc engg at IISc? Third is this: consider the cases of you 1. joining ISRO now, and 2. doing MSc engg and then joining IISc. Can you grow more higher at ISRO in the next two years, than if you did MSc and then entered IISc? Guess you need to talk to people already at IISc and ISRO and answer these questions and decide based on them. All the best :)

  17. Manoj says:

    Hey, so nice of you to share, great post!!

  18. manoj kumar says:

    please can anybody help me in providing details of getting career at isro.

  19. spurthi says:

    Hi,
    I’ve read all the blogs regarding your GATE preparation and all. I want to know was it only self and group study or you guys took coaching from any institute. Is coaching necessary? Your information would be very helpful.
    Thanks.

    • karthrags says:

      We didn’t take coaching, and we feel coaching isn’t necessary at all.. But it varies from person to person. We did attend the mock tests from gateforum. They were very useful..

      • spurthi says:

        ok thanks a lot. Can you tell me which other books or study materials you found useful and referred apart from the text books for GATE preparation?
        Awaiting your reply.

  20. nidhi says:

    hi
    i’m doin b.tech(cse in 7th sem)from not a very reputed college and i feel i don’t have enuff knowledge about my subjects though i’ve got 75% on an averge..also i feel our colg’s syllabus is also not upto the mark as compared to others…so i’m confused about doin m.tech or mba or anything else..i dun have particular interests in any field…jz wanted to tell u dat i don’t want to be a lecturer..and i feel i hv stage fear..
    thnx in adv….reply soon

  21. Sandeep Vaid says:

    I have done MSc. in computers from pune university. After that i joined IT. Now i have 5+ years experience in Java/J2EE..i am working as a Senior Software Engineer in enterprise application area. I have following queries regarding MTech:

    1) Will at this stage doing MTech will be of any use ?

    2) I think MTech is towards systems and research. What kind of job profile i can expect after MTech?

    3) I will be spending 2 years of time for MTech means in these 2 years i will have to sacrifies for years income. Is it really worth? What package/role i can expect after completing MTech.

    4) For which companies i can apply after MTech. (sepcially in pune)?

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Sandeep,

      1. Depends on why you want to do an MTech. An MTech helps you to switch lines, or get back to academia.
      2. After MTech, there is no particular “job profile” you can expect. Placements are mostly common.
      3. Answer connected to your reply to 1 :) Package – average was about 7 to 7.5 lpa last year..
      4. no idea :)

  22. Amit Tiwari says:

    Hi karthrags,

    Thanks for yours post, its really good, Can you please help me out with below doubts:

    I did my B.tech from NIT in 2006 and have experience of around three years in some reputed s/w industries.I will be very grateful to you ,if you can please clarify below doubts

    1. will I get any advantage with my work ex. in regards of percentile

    2. Is there any special masters program for working professional. If yes the really appreciate
    if you can provide me the details as Not found much on net.

    3. What is the stipend offered to Full time m tech program and is there ne for part timers also

    4. Can you suggest me some some good books for the
    preparation Mtech(CS).

    5 M.tech part-time is 3 yrs duration,if I am correct,apart from what is the edge of Full-time
    over part-time

    Waiting for Response.

    Thanks so much
    Amit

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Amit,

      1. Nope.
      3. Full time MTechs is 8k per month as of now..
      4. Text books are the best.
      I don’t have any idea of part-time or professional masters..

  23. Hari says:

    Hi,

    It was a nice post. I am not sure, if you would see my comment. Anyways, I have some doubts; rather confusions in chosing my areana. Please can you mail me your EMAIL ID, i shall get in touch with you on this? I cant publish my current profile in pubic.

    Regards,
    Hari

  24. namashiv says:

    hi,karthrags.thanks for such a nice blog.I’m doing my 7th sem B.E.,(ECE).I had the confusion of choosing Mtech or MS and ur blog helped me to resolve it.I want 2 go for research ‘n i want to go for a specialization.On the other hand,I cant afford a MS in US so I want to do my higher studies in India.Does IITM offers a MS program that concentrates more on Thesis than on Coursework?

  25. akhilesh says:

    hi.. its was a nice post.. Can you help me with one issue..
    I am in my 4th year Btech(CSE) from IIIT Hyderabad. I am interested in doing MS from India.The options I though are:
    i)Converting to dual degree and doing MS from our college only
    ii) MS from IIM or IID (Is gate required, If yes what you be reasonable score to get into them)

    I am not able to decide which one to choose and also state if I have any other options

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Akhilesh,
      Write GATE and try for the IITs. IIIT is good, but IIT is better, and its always good to try for higher stuff :)

  26. Selvakumar says:

    Hi I m planning to take up my GATE next year(2011). Does my 4 years of work experince will speak(help me in getting good job) after my PG in IIT? Or I ll be treated as a fresher?

    • karthrags says:

      I’m not sure. By default, your experience will not count, but you can talk with the company representatives and ask for a better profile..

  27. goutham says:

    Dear brother

    Hi. i am a graduate in chemical engineering 2009 passout. I applied for M.S.Research in IITD and IITM this year. i just wanted to know the future prospects for students who finish their M.S.Research other than opting for teaching. Please help me brother.

  28. girish chandra says:

    hi…i want to ask some of my doubts ..i have applied for MS from IIT-M for JAN 2010 without any GATE score …and today i got an email from IIT-M regarding my interview schedule ..my ques are…..
    1)will they consider me for MS without a GATE score…
    2)if yes then what type of ques i have to prep for the interview..

    Regards,
    girish

  29. sireeshaavvari says:

    Nice post Karthik. I have a few questions for you.
    Let me first give you my background:
    - I passed out B.Tech in EEE in 2003 – but I must say my performance was really bad
    - I joined MBA in 2004 in a reputed university (I got 28th rank in ICET – state wide entrance exam for MBA/MCA)
    - I couldn’t complete it until 2007 because of marriage, kid and some unfortunate incidents. But I got distinction this time.
    -I’m currently taking a DW/BI certification program in USA (offered by a university). I’m also worked in software field.
    -I’m very much interested to do MS in India (in a year or two)The reason is, really want to know more and research the DW/BI field.
    Questions:
    -what are my options (for MS)?
    -How do you apply for MS Research program in IITM? Given my poor academics till now, how can I improve my prospects?
    -I’m also considering IIIT Hyderabad. How will be my chances there? (to get in)

    • karthrags says:

      IITB and IITM have good profs in the area you’re interested in. Not sure about other IITs. You’ll have to ask around.. I think you’ll have to write GATE to get in.

      • Smita says:

        Karthik,
        who are the profs dealing with DW/BI at IITM and how good is this area @IITM?

      • karthrags says:

        Hi Smita,

        Quite a few profs here work in AI and related areas, but I do not know the exact details .You might want to check out Profs Ravindran, Deepak Khemani, Sutanu Chakraborty amongst others.

  30. Himanshu says:

    Hi,

    I don’t have any preparation for GATE 2010 right now. I know it wont be possible to get it through in 3 months as I am in a job now. But would it be good to have an experience of it or to give it with full preparation

    • karthrags says:

      Even if you didn’t prepare, give it a shot. The experience will be hugely beneficial. Prepare at least two or three subjects though..

  31. Sushil says:

    Hi Karthik,

    you mentioned that IITM is pretty good for VLSI , what is your assessment for DBMS and related areas at IITM, going through the department website i noticed that there wasnt any dedicated “database managment group” as in case of IITB and also the areas pertaining to Databases have not been cited as a focus area in the website, only 2 profs have cited “Databases” as their are of interest & the “artificial intelligence & database lab” link too is dysfunctional, all of it gives the impression that databases & related areas are not the focus areas of IITM?…..having said that there are a couple of queries i wish u could answer:-

    1. is it still ok to consider IITM if one is interested in databases?
    2. going by whatever is available on the? net i.e insti websites & forums it seems IITB is the place to be for databases,what is ur take on it?
    3. what about algo & data mining at IITM? avg/good/great?

    eagerly looking fwd 2 ur response

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Sushil,

      Welcome to my blog :) Good to see someone who’s done some homework before asking!
      Yes, IITM is very good in VLSI, including the CS aspects of VLSI. And yes, IITM is not great for DMBS. There aren’t much courses on DBMS and not many profs working on DBMS. You’d do better to go to IITB or some other IIT that does considerable work in DBMS (heard that even in IITB, not many actually work on databases as such. You’ll have to contact someone there) To your questions:
      1. No
      2. Probably. Since I’m not there, I’m not really qualified to comment :) Talk to someone there. Try Chander Iyer, or Sree or Rakesh.. They’ll be having department pages with contact info.
      3. I’d say between good and great. If you include machine learning and all that, I’d say great. We’ve got two really good profs working on these areas, two newly joined profs on this area and one or two more who might probably join. Strongly recommend IITM for this. Think IITB is also into all this big time. Check them out as well.

      • Sushil says:

        Wow that was a real fast response..thanks a ton for the info Karthik. There is one more fundamental issue(its actually an apprehension) on which i would like to get some insider info from you ..it has always been my belief that the top rated universities in the world put a lot of emphasis on their research output and hence give due weightage to the PG scholars involved in research, but there is this notion in some quarters that IITs are UG centric(given the hype that the IIT UGs generate)and that PG students are treated as 2nd tier,that UG students get the lion share of resources and attention,i have even come across posts in forums where people claim that there are profs at IITs who openly rebuke PGs as 2nd tier(as extreme as it may sound)..such notions might be unfounded but surely were disappointing and left me wondering “is it really the case”? is there an undercurrent of UG bias and PG neglect @ IITs? is it that the PG scholars have to grudgingly put up with this bias? i sincerely hope not and what gave me hope was ur intro in this blog where you say “And guess what? I’m having a FANTASTIC time here!! I THOROUGHLY ENJOY the work I do, the place everyting!”, coz someone can’t be this happy if this apprehension was true… , i feel it is fundamental coz there are many people who want to join a PG research program to really enjoy the research work and not for anything else, such ppl will have to think twice before joining a PG program @IIT if this apprehension is true, hope you will understand my inhibitions and give the real picture @ IITM on this issue

      • karthrags says:

        Hmm.. First, you’d probably be knowing that IITs are primarily a teaching institution, unlike IISc or MIT, which are research institutions. So there’d be researchers as well as students. When there are two groups, not many can be unbiased. Most profs would either lean towards UG or towards PG. I cannot talk about the other departments, but in CS, most of the profs prefer PGs, because they are the ones who get the work done. In particular, MS and PhD. BTech and MTech are course programs and students will mostly be swamped with assignments. So they will not be able to contribute to research much, unlike researchers. In CS, quite a few profs explicitly state that they prefer researchers (my prof, for example). Basically, you do good work, you’re respected, irrespective of the program you’re in.
        There would be some BTechs who think they’re good; there’d be some profs who think BTechs are better. But this CERTAINLY is not the case in general. I know quite a few guys in BTech; they’re all smart and sharp, but almost never aloof or supercilious. Its just that they’re 20 year olds and in PG there are many people who’ve worked before coming here, some who’re 30+, and this gap probably acts against better cohesion. (This is another common opinion outside, and might be true at other IITs about which I don’t know. At least at IITM, it isn’t the case)
        Some examples: my research is with a dual degree student; a one and half year long project with about 10 BTechs; at least 5 assignments with BTechs; astro club observation sessions; music club joint practice and discussions; Shaastra. The list is endless.. hope you get the picture :) THERE IS NO HOSTILITY / COLDNESS BETWEEN BTECHS AND MTECHS!!
        Having said all that, yes, I do agree that there is some preferential treatment to BTechs. What is less commonly known is that there is also preferential treatment to PGs in other parameters. Placements is a BIG example: financial companies, who pay in the range of 10 – 15 lpa, generally take only BTechs. At the same time, most of the tech companies take BTechs and PGs, mostly paying PGs a lakh or two more. This is because PGs are exposed to more advanced tech stuff.

        I can keep quoting examples and raise points :D bottomline: there’ll be bias towards or against wherever you go; cannot avoid that. In the CS department of IITM, its mostly neutral or towards PGs. As far as I know, there’s no overt contempt or hostility or whatever to PGs (note all the qualifiers; my knowledge is very restricted and I really cannot comment about the rest) And this reply became a small post by itself :D

      • Sushil says:

        Thanks again Karthik….i think i get the picture…and yes i did take note of the qualifiers

      • “I cannot talk about the other departments, but in CS, most of the profs prefer PGs, because they are the ones who get the work done. In particular, MS and PhD”

        Very true. I realize this now. :D

      • karthrags says:

        :D why?

      • DEVENDRA says:

        hi karthik i just want to know that i can where i can apply with this score
        EE-AIR 355
        SCORE -680

  32. karnika says:

    hi, i am preparing for iit jam entrance for msc course.iam graduate in biotechnology subject.iam doing right or not bcoz people say there is no scope in biotech.what other course can i do to uplift myself.

    • karthrags says:

      You’ll have to talk to people in the particular field you’re interested in.. It does look to me though that biotech will be one of the MOST important areas soon, if not already

  33. sapna says:

    hi….
    i want admission in m tech at iits or nits in year 2011,is any other way to get in rather than gate bcoz i have missed it

  34. Barun says:

    Great post!

  35. Smita says:

    Hi Karthik,

    Have the results for MS admissions 2010(Spring session) been declared ?

  36. Smita says:

    Hi Karthik,

    Just been offered admission to MS program @iitm cse dept. under the “project scheme”, was curious to know the difference b/w project scheme/regular admission & is the MS under project scheme longer in duration than regular ? thanks in advance

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Smita,

      Congrats on your admit :) Under which prof?

      Project / HTRA will determine the way in which you earn your money (every regular PG student is paid). HTRA – you work for the department, helping out with courses of profs by correcting papers, evaluating assignments etc. The department pays you. In project, you assist the prof in some industry project of his. You get paid out of the project funds.
      There are advantages and disadvantages to both. In project, you’re wholly accountable to the prof, for both your research as well as extra work; in HTRA, you’ll be accountable to some other prof (probably) for your TA work..

      • Smita says:

        thanks Karthik….regarding the Prof.-dont know yet, letter doesnt mention anything abt it, tried to call up the dept. offc to get some info but nobody was answering…. w.r.t advantages/disadvantages of HTRA vs Proj could you plz elaborate on it.

      • Smita says:

        just got the update that the prof. is Dr.Hema A Murthy

  37. priyabrata says:

    Hi Karthik,
    This is a nice blog containg almost all the information regarding GATE.
    But i would like to ask how much stipend someone gets during his MS in IITs/IISc.Does that depend on the sponsered project you are working on?

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Priyabrata,

      Thanks! If you’re an HTRA, you get 8k per month. If you’re in a project, the prof decides how much you get, based on the available funds. It’ll be from 9.5k to 13k

  38. Sathish says:

    Hi,
    I finished by B.E ECE in India and I am currently doing MS Embedded Systems in UK.I want to continue my studies in IIT, But I am very much confused whether to choose M.Tech or M.S in IIT.Also if there is any course releated to my field in IIT.
    Thanks in advance

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Sathish,

      If you’re doing your MS now, why would you want to continue your education in India with another MS or MTech? PhD would be the next logical step if you want to continue studying.

  39. Baby says:

    Hi,

    I want to do a M.S .I am currently working in An IT company.I have to do it by part time .Can i do it in IITs?
    Do I need a GATE score?. Also,need to know whther part time M.S is recognized in par with the regular MTech or M.E in the recruitment programs conducted by ISRO,DRDO etc..Kindly clarify.

  40. Baby says:

    Hi,

    What are all the oppurtunities available for MS in ISRO?What branch of study will be more needful? Is the GATE score obtained at 2005 which was not used for admission to highere education is going to help at anytime in future?

    • karthrags says:

      2005 GATE score will not help you anywhere. Its too old.. ISRO – you’ll have to go through their process. Not sure if MS is given extra weightage

  41. Baby says:

    Hi,
    What are the future ooputunities for a student with B.E(Electronics and Instrumentation)?

  42. karthrags says:

    no idea!

  43. aditya says:

    i am doing my BE in aeronautical engineering.i unfortunately missed the opportunity of writing GATE-2010.can i get in to MS aerospace in to iits without GATE score?

    • karthrags says:

      No, GATE is essential for getting into a regular MS program. You could call the Aero department and clarify further

  44. Sagar Juneja says:

    Hi,
    My interest is to work in a specific area actually I want to make my career in R&D. And after reading your post I feel MS would be a good choice for me. I am from Electronics background and I wish to go in either Signal Processing Field or Power Management. Do you have some opinion about that and also I will appreciate if you tell me what can be the other areas to work as I believe you are from the Electronics background as well.

    Please suggest me good institute for the fields i have mentioned above

  45. aparna says:

    Hi. i am a graduate in computer science engineering 2009 passout. I wrote gate 2010 got approx 24 marks..what will be my rank.can i get through iit’s,nit’s? are there any chances i had reservation.please help me.

  46. arun says:

    Hi Karthik,

    Just thought i’d share my experience. I am interested in doing research in Computer Architecture. Last Nov i got a call from SERC dept of IISc for direct PhD (I did not have a GATE score). I made through the written round and had a not-so-difficult interview (half an hour). Questions were very basic. I had prepared thoroughly and expected much tougher questions. But sadly i wasn’t in the final shortlist. So i have written GATE this time and i expect a score of around 45/100 which is not great. I’m hoping to get interview calls from IISc and IITM at least. Do you think its a good idea to mail a few profs and generally tell them about my interests? Also, i have 2 years of work exp at Linux Technology Center, IBM. I have some experience working in the linux kernel. Do you think this will make me stand a better chance in getting an interview call? These were a few questions off the top of my head. Will bug you more soon. Thanks for your time.

    arun

    • karthrags says:

      Hi Arun,

      I too got that feeling when I went to SERC. For some of us, they asked some very elementary questions, for about 10 mins only. Almost looked like they’d decided not to pick sme people beforehand (based on the profile?) and just conducted an interview to be sure.

      Yes, makes sense to mail profs beforehand. Your experience might come in handy, if you’re going to work on some related area..

  47. sonal says:

    hi,
    ur info really useful abt M TECH and MS,can u tell m abt GRE General Test and GRE subject Test for computer science
    i wanna know is it compulsory to clear both exams to get GRE score card?

    • karthrags says:

      Hi,

      GRE is compulsory for applying to most of the US universities. As far as I know, no university demands the Subject GRE, though they recommend it for PhD applicants. Score card is separate for both

  48. sachin (gnome guy) says:

    Hey karthik!

    i am interested in computer graphics, as well as computational complexity.
    are there good profs in IITM who can guide me in anyone of these fields if i choose to join MS in IITM?

    • karthrags says:

      Yes, there are a few. Check out Profs Sukhendu Das, Pandu Rangan, Narayanaswamy, Kamala Kirthivasan etc..

  49. Gaurang Khalasi says:

    Can i know difference between ME , MS/M.TECH?
    or it will be good to do ME if one can not eligible for getting admission in MS/M.TECH because of low Gate-Score?

  50. Lakshmikanth says:

    Hi Karthik,

    In IISc, under research program they are offering MSc(Engg)and under course program they are offering ME/MTech, where the duration of the program for both is 2 years. My question is
    1. What is the basic difference between research program and course program?
    2. Which degree is given more value during job interviews?

    • karthrags says:

      Interviews, both are treated the same mostly. Difference – please read the post :)

      • SACHIN says:

        @IISc,

        ME=11-14 courses(your choice) + ME project
        MSc(Engg) = 5-6 courses(approved by your guide, related to your proposed area only!) + MSc thesis work .

        by default, ME guys learn a lot more subjects at IISc, hence can appear for placements in more fields/companies.

        As a MSc(engg) student ,Selecting you for a job may be ‘more luring’ (a.k.a higher salary) only to companies working in your field.

        As far as salaries go CSA dept gets best placements in IISc.

        Because ME is more competitive… Some , and again i repeat “some” companies prefer ME students , or give a trifle higher salary to ME students. (I have read such notices on the iisc mailing lists)
        Exceptions= depends on your performance.

        In the end, its your choice… if you are damn sure about your area of work… go for Msc(engg).
        In ME , you can hang around for a sem doing course-work, and get a taste of every subject the dept has to offer before digging deep into an area.

        If you felt your BE education was a waste of time(like mine), join ME, cause you will get to actually learn all the aspects of CS in depth.

  51. vasanth says:

    hi
    i am doing BE EEE final year.i have only 60 percent i have 8 history of arrears.I aim for gate 2011, joining a coaching institute.does my acadamics affect my entry to IITs or it is 100 percent based on gate score.i am opting for EC paper as iam interested in Microelectonics & VLSI design,are the placements and job prospects good in this field.pls reply

  52. Arun says:

    Hi,karthik..U hav done a wonderful job..I was lookin out for ppl who doin der ms in iits..For advice.:)i m from bang..I hav written gate dis time..Im expecting around 45 marks..N im from obc..From d previous cut off it seems likely dat i would b gettin call from iisc(msc.Engg-ec),iit.B(m.Tech-3 years)etc..I wanted to know how to approach d interviews n how to choose d area of research.:)im from ec with no work experience..I hav contacted ppl from both industry n institutions..Im planni to take up research in vlsi or communication systems or embedded..No other industry seems to hav scope in india for now as far as jobs r concerned..I want to know wic iit should i prefer to join if i have to opt d above areas of research..If u know ppl from electronics in your col can u please consult dem n lend a helpin hand?:)

  53. samatha says:

    the posts here are really helpful..i am in my ECE 2nd year and have some query regardind m.s….
    do v need to write GATE for doing M.S in india? or else tell me what exam to write for pursuing M.S in india..
    is the portion same in entrance test conducted for m.s and m.tech?(i mean GATE portion)

  54. samatha says:

    the posts here are really helpful..i am in my ECE 2nd year and wanted to pursue m.s after my b.tech. as i am an electronics engineer, please suggest me, research in what area would be best in m.s??

  55. Abhishek says:

    Hello,
    What will be the difference between MS in US and MS in India particularly IISc?

  56. Abhishek says:

    Hello,
    what is the difference between MS in US and MS in India particularly in India?

  57. sachin says:

    Which is a better institute for Natural Language processing and machine Learning,
    i am very much interested in this field.
    Is IITM good at these topics, are they known for its research in this field?

    I will get direct calls from IITB and IITM which one should i go for?

    i tried mailing a few profs but no one replied.

    please help me.

    • karthrags says:

      Prof Ravindran from IITM is really good in machine learning and stuff. There are also good profs at IITB on this area. Check out their individual pages and see which suits you better..

  58. sachin says:

    hi,

    is iitm good for natural language processing, and AI.
    Is madras known for research in those areas.

    whcih is better IITb or IITM for these areas?

  59. shrutika says:

    hey hii,
    i appeared for gate 2010 and got score as 445, rank as 6324 ,94percentile do you think i will get admission for Ms in any iits or mtech in nits????PLZZZ HELP ME…..

  60. deepak says:

    Hi i got air 1574 and my score is 609 in cs gate can i get ms at any iit..

  61. Vivek Shribatri says:

    hi Karthik,

    this is vivek again if ur following please reply soon

    i already applied for iits but i want to know is this much necessary to know Ur specialization subject before interview…

  62. Gowda says:

    Man ,

    you really have loads of patience.
    May be your time management skills …..

    I think people are expecting one post on this skill too …!!!

  63. ASHMIT says:

    HI KARTHIK

    I REALLY LIKED YOUR POST.
    PLEASE ANSWER MY QUERY…AS I AM REALLY STUCK…What to do?

    I have done my BE in 7 years with 60% and no placement,i want to pursue mtech from iit,nits/ only to get good placement as i am not interested either in extensive research or teaching.

    1)Does persuing Mtech from IIT/NITS will serve my purpose?

    2)Does the extra 3 years time taken to complete my BE affect the admission procedure.

    I will be highly obliged if you answer my query.

    i am eagerly waiting for your reply.

    regards
    ashmit

  64. Arunava says:

    Hi,
    I m working in Govt PSU as chemical engineer for 5 years. I want to do M.Tech next year. Is it beneficial to go 4 M.Tech after 5 yrs job experience?

  65. SHASHI says:

    HI KARTHIK
    I and others are very grateful to you for such an excellent post.
    thanks for it.

    Please answer my one question:

    I have done my BE from VTU,Belgaum,Karnataka.
    “For awarding class of BE degree,University considers only 1st attempt marks of 5-8 semester,and if a student fails in even one subject from 5-8 sem,the university awards 2nd class degree to them” as i have got a Back in one subject of 7 semester i have been awarded 2 class BE degree”
    But My Aggregate of all the four years is 62%

    As most of IIT/NIT/IIIT etc. require “First class or 60% marks in BE Degree”
    I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER I AM ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR MECH IN IIT/NITS ETC.

    I am in deep trouble regarding my eligibility issue,please clarify my problem,i will be highly grateful to you.

    Thanks & Regards
    SHASHI

  66. Rohan says:

    Good post..Its nice to see that you reply..
    I have the following query.I have completed my B.E.(mumbai university) with 72.93%.But my aggregate of all the 8 semesters is 59.6%.Am i eligible for admission in IITs or is it wise to do a job now.
    I have mailed IITB but they haven’t replied..
    Also is there any scope in india after M.Tech in Electronics..

  67. Rohan says:

    Hello Sir,
    Please reply to this post and don’t delete it.
    I have completed my B.E.(Mumbai University) with 72.93%.However my aggregate of all the 8 semesters is 59.6%.Am i eligible for M.Tech in IIT Bombay with this percentage and a valid gate score.
    Kindly reply so that i can align my studies in a proper way.
    Thank you.

  68. Nirmal Mundra says:

    Hi!!
    I am having ECE bachelor degree 2009 batch and presently doing job as validation engineer in a Electronics Metering firm.
    Sir I have got call from IITR for Electrical Engg. department i.e. probably for Power system MTech.
    I want to know whether MTech in different field from BTech is fruitfull.
    And also whether it make any sense to do MTech from IITr.
    Thank you

    • karthrags says:

      It makes sense to switch disciplines if you’re really interested in the new on. Otherwise don’t..

  69. Alan says:

    hi karthrags

    i am in a delima of choosing between MTech in IITM and MSc(engg) in IISc.i cant still decide.
    is there any difference in job opurtunities for the degrees?does doing MSc(engg) mean u can only be a prof?i would like to go into R&D sections.Does Mtech have scope 4 dat?
    Pls note i am a chemical engineer.
    PLS DO REPLY

  70. Kabir says:

    Hi Karthrags,

    First of all let me thank you, for such an wonderful blog, providing so much information, for ppl like me….

    Query time..
    1) what are the specific areas within CS in which MS can be done??
    what are you doing your MS in??
    2) To the best of my knowledge, only IITM and IITD have MS course and both prefer candidates with some work experience in the chosen fields. Can you suggest out of the two which college is good for which field.
    3) About IISc MSc engg course(CSA and SE), these courses are more inclined towards thesis(paper work), and less application oriented, rite??

    I consider myself good in programming with more inclination in application oriented things, less paper work and more of practically doing it, and I want to couple my programmimg skills with some areas, to be specific embedded programming, since I have hardware knowledge as well. Also we have programming within Computer Networking, Database, Compilers. Apart from these what other options do I have?? and which IIT is good for these course, specially embedded programming.

    Thanks a lot in Advance.

    Sincerely,
    Kabir

    • karthrags says:

      1. No restriction on the area. It depends solely on you and your advisor.
      2. IITM is good for networks, vlsi, machine learning, theory. IITD I’ve heard is good for graphics and vision, software engg and theory.
      3. Yes, IISc MSc engg is just like MS at IITM or IITD

  71. Kabir says:

    OK… I read now u r doing ur MS in VLSI/Computer Architecture/OS.
    Hope u answer rest of my questions…

    Thanks,
    Kabir.

  72. hello karthik….
    wz really a gr8 article but …m havin a differnt issue… i m a 12 qualified student … qualified for IIT wid a rank of 3150…. n with dis m nt gonna get the core branches i know…..wz in a dilemma ….whether to opt of for a four year btech program in in biotech in kgp n eng physics in ghuwati…or a M.Sc in mathematics and scientific computing in kgp or a metallurgica M.tech in bombay n kgp……. u c….i wud luv doin sumthin i can play wid and do a research upon… eng phy is pefect platform for both industry and research …..but just tht its in guwahti…..shud tht bother me joinin der …..

    • karthrags says:

      Depends on other stuff as well, like how far from home IITG is, and how interested you are in that course etc. Also consider the sliding option. At the end of first year, the toppers are offered the option of switching to another stream..

  73. Hi4mSumit says:

    This is really a gr8 post, though I have come across a bit late, but anyways you generally search a thing when you need it. I will like to thank u Karthik for writing such a detailed mail and clear all the doubt that ppl generally have. I too had a lots of questions but reading this post and ur replay many of them already got cleared up.

    Thanks
    Sumit

  74. arun kumar v says:

    hii karthrag,

    I am offered M.S. in analog VLSI under Dr.Nagendra Krishnapura.I know that
    he is one of the best in this field in the country.I graduated from an engineering college in kerala where all the key subjects were handled by temporary lecturers.So I have a fear whether I can grow upto my guide’s expectation.I also got Mtech in communication in IITG.Can u show me some light?

  75. Pankaj says:

    First of all thnks a lot for the info u post.
    Just by going thru many of my doubts u clarified.

    Now, directly coming to my query. I am bit worried as i’m having up and down in my academics. Will this b barrier in going for M-Tech?.
    X- 49, XII – 63
    Bsc – 56, MCA – 72.
    1. Will this affect me in applying for IIT’s or NIT (or after applying in selection) as i don’t have 60 through out.
    I will b applying for GATE-2011.
    2. My interest is in towards Cryptography and from the comments its look like IIT M is the best.

  76. Parth says:

    karthrag,

    I am planning to give GATE this year……was searching something n found ur blog….its wonderful….
    Just one question….
    VLSI…is an electronics branch field……..wht is the role of Computer science student in VLSI ….how is B.E in Computer science helping u in VLSI….

    I m sorry..if its a wrong question to ask….but its something that I don’t knw…n just curious to knw frm u….

    Thanks,
    Parth

  77. Parth says:

    BTW karthrag this year around 108,000 students had appeared in Electronics as well as computer science EACH.

    this year was crazy it seems…….ppl with 700 plus GATE score…even din’t get into IIT…..just for ur info..and for the ppl who read this….

  78. saad says:

    i want to do Mtech in civil engg from IIT”S. Kuch scope hai kya ?, i mean the job prospects after getting the IIT tag!!!!!!!!

  79. pratik says:

    hi, for M.E/M.Tech in communication, which is best? iisc,iitb,iitm,iitk,iitd,iitkhr. . .. .?

  80. ARUN PRASAD says:

    Hi

    Thanks for the above post. It was very informative.

    I am mechanical design engineer with 2 years exp in one of best companies in the world with a handful of salary to take home. I am interested in further education and i am pretty convinced that I must be doing MS by research, How do i start ??

    1. Do i need to give GATE ?
    2. My area of interest in Control Valve ? I dont find any information regarding this in any of the IIT websites?? How can i e sure that i can carry out my research in my area of interest ??

  81. arthi says:

    which course should i opt in btech so as to do aerospace in MS or MTECH

  82. ishan mistry says:

    hey, i think this is a very informative blog and i found very useful information from this blog.
    I am a student of B.E(I.T) from mumbai university. I am interested in Mtech from india and i am going to give GATE2011.
    So my query is that if unfortunately i dont get a good score in GATE(i.e not enough for IITs and NITs) can i try to these colleges:
    1. Nirma university (ahmedabad).
    2. Dhirubhai ambani university (ahmbd).
    I have heard that these colleges have great infrastructure and good placements.
    so can u suggest me whether i should for Mtech in these colleges.
    And if not these colleges what can i do if my GATE score is low.
    I am already taking a gap of 1 yr to prepare for GATE.

    • karthrags says:

      Thanks! Regarding your question, its purely a personal call. I don’t think you should be asking this to anyone..

  83. aayushi says:

    hi karthik,
    thanx 4 such an informative blog. kindly, tell me wat’s d dffrnc between gre and gmat?

  84. Tina says:

    hii…i m doing my MTech from a reputated clg in my state. But i didnt make it to any IIT.. So…I want 2 know… how should i prepare to get into an IIT for PhD . And which IIT is best for PhD in Comp Sc. PLzz giv me som info abt it… thanx..

  85. B.Sarath Chandra says:

    i hav got 59% in btech (ECE) and 85% in mtech , am i eligible for DRDO, ISRO, NTPC examinations………………..

  86. sara says:

    hey , this’s a great job ur doin :) i appreciate you from the bottom of ma heart :) i did ma BE (EEE)… cleard it with arrears this 2010 , am i eligible to write gate ? i wanna do some science course which would lead to phd but mom has refused to such attempts so i atleast wanna do ME at IISC in bang……. kindly reply me…thanks alot :)

  87. SHAHSI says:

    Hi KARTHRAGS,

    CAN YOU PLEASE TELL WHICH IITS,NITS OFFER DIRECT MTECH ADMISSIONS WITHOUT INTERVIEW.
    PLEASE GIVE DETAILS.

    THANKS & REGARDS
    SHASHI

  88. ravikumar3 says:

    hi my name is ravi,i completed my b.tech in ece from jntu in 2008,i didnt got job till now
    kidly please answer to my quetions
    1.can i opt for M S research program in computers
    2.if i have chosen which subjects in computers i have to learn earlier and throughly
    for in iit or iiit
    3.can i have to do M S programme offered by sikkim manipal univ,or anna univ,which insistute i have to prefer other than iits or iiit.
    4.i didnt wrote gate
    plz reply as early as possible
    thanks in advance
    th

  89. sayan pal says:

    hi i m sayan…i am applying for jrf in iitkgp in electronics in signal processing….will the give me an oppurtunity for ms in electronics……i hav also gate score 507 in ec and air 3892 in 2010 gate…i hav heard this that jrfs considered to be in ms programme nxt year..plase suggest me…is this my hearing correct regarding admission to ms in iit kgp………

  90. Anushree Patil says:

    hey karthik,

    Can u plz tell me diff in M.Tech (Research) and M.Tech (Regular) courses ??

    Reply soon

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